Going single .............for out and out power!

Martin F · 21st December 2004, 11:05 PM

Discussion about going single in the chase for dyno figures or explosive drag strip performance.

Car would only be expected to put down top figures on race fuel and at occasional dyno\strip runs.

Martin F · 21st December 2004, 11:11 PM

Cost would not be a major concern.

alex h · 22nd December 2004, 11:03 AM

MoTeC M800 ECU
Rebuilt engine - probably stroked - JUN or HKS Stroker Kit.
ARP Head Bolts
JUN Valve train kit inc 272*10.8mm lift Intake and 272*10.8mm lift exhaust cams. (this would turn it into an interference engine) Ti retainers uprated springs, Under bucket shims etc.
*replacement intake manifold - not sure which though
T-80 DBB - 1000+hp.
Full Tubi manifold. Head exhaust ports matched to the manifold.
5" Intake pipe.
4-5" Downpipe + 4-5" exhaust system.
Large FMIC with CO2 cooler system for drag racing.
Remove the A/C
Uprated larger copper radiator. Veilside bonnet ducted to help air flow from the rad.
Nitrous 200-300hp system for getting the T80 on boost sooner. Progressive controller.
*2-3x Big Fuel Pumps* Walbro GS341's should suffice.
#10 fuel lines with a #6 return + 2x #10 fuel filters.
1600cc injectors (idle would have to be set high as the injectors would be too big for a normal idle...and the valve train would make a normal idle bad anyway)
PHR fuel rail (17.25mm dia)
AFPR - Aeromotive
Lightweight pulleys and as it's a race motor with a limited life span...a lighter crank pulley.
Tilton Clutch and flywheel pack.
ACPT Carbon propshaft - for weight loss and for it's behaviour if it breaks.
TRD Diff.

I'm sure I'll think of more later.

The Hornet · 22nd December 2004, 02:42 PM

Nice Alex

Would be good if we could put approx prices next to any listings, so people can get an overall picture of how costly things can be, if done correctly.

" Now I gave you that list a week ago Alex, why haven't you fitted it all to my car yet! "

hehe

alex h · 22nd December 2004, 02:49 PM

Just gimme a cheque for 30k and I'll sort something out

Martin F · 30th December 2004, 07:45 PM

For out and out power an engine build is going to have to be high on the list. Increasing capacity may as well be done on the assumption you will be using a pretty big blower so will want as much volume as possible to get it spooling, also a higher capacity engine will increase torque lower down.

So something around ?7k for a HKS 3.4 stroker and another ?3k for the assembly and any other parts like high lift cams, valve springs, head gasket etc. Would be an easy ?10k spent on just the block.

Sharpie · 30th December 2004, 08:31 PM

You must have to spend on getting good traction down with all this power ?

Drag Suspension and DR's for the strip ?

And brakes ? Do the 8s cars in US run stock brakes ?

alex h · 30th December 2004, 09:23 PM

I was avoiding chassis upgrades as they are seperate. However yes you're right lots of other things would need upgrading too.

Infact if we're going for out and out power I'd be sticking in a 3UZ 5.2 V8...

Martin F · 30th December 2004, 10:31 PM

I wonder how long until we see cars built for pure dyno competitions in this country like they seem to do in the US.

21st December 2004, 11:11 PM	#2
Martin F Administrator UK Spec - Manual Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 10,226	Cost would not be a major concern. __________________ Martin UK6TT + Bits & Bobs 'Remember folks, the inside lane isn't just for Xmas' MSOC FAQ MSOC Members Discounts MSOC Resources

22nd December 2004, 11:03 AM	#3
alex h Old Timer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: East UK Posts: 887	MoTeC M800 ECU Rebuilt engine - probably stroked - JUN or HKS Stroker Kit. ARP Head Bolts JUN Valve train kit inc 27210.8mm lift Intake and 27210.8mm lift exhaust cams. (this would turn it into an interference engine) Ti retainers uprated springs, Under bucket shims etc. replacement intake manifold - not sure which though T-80 DBB - 1000+hp. Full Tubi manifold. Head exhaust ports matched to the manifold. 5" Intake pipe. 4-5" Downpipe + 4-5" exhaust system. Large FMIC with CO2 cooler system for drag racing. Remove the A/C Uprated larger copper radiator. Veilside bonnet ducted to help air flow from the rad. Nitrous 200-300hp system for getting the T80 on boost sooner. Progressive controller. 2-3x Big Fuel Pumps* Walbro GS341's should suffice. #10 fuel lines with a #6 return + 2x #10 fuel filters. 1600cc injectors (idle would have to be set high as the injectors would be too big for a normal idle...and the valve train would make a normal idle bad anyway) PHR fuel rail (17.25mm dia) AFPR - Aeromotive Lightweight pulleys and as it's a race motor with a limited life span...a lighter crank pulley. Tilton Clutch and flywheel pack. ACPT Carbon propshaft - for weight loss and for it's behaviour if it breaks. TRD Diff. I'm sure I'll think of more later. __________________ Regards Alex H

22nd December 2004, 02:42 PM	#4
The Hornet Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Hull / UK Posts: 294	Nice Alex Would be good if we could put approx prices next to any listings, so people can get an overall picture of how costly things can be, if done correctly. " Now I gave you that list a week ago Alex, why haven't you fitted it all to my car yet! " hehe __________________ 1993.5 MKIV T/T Auto J-Spec * Blitz NUR SPEC R - 3\" full de-cat ?* Blitz SBC-ID VIII EBC ?* Blitz Power-iD & xtra harness ?* HKS SSQV BOV ?* Apexi Power intake ?* TRL FCD ?* Denso IK24's ?* TRD Strut brace ?* Blitz LM FMIC ?* 3G discs, Endless Pads * Pics: www.netpostbag.com/~hornet/supra *

22nd December 2004, 02:49 PM	#5
alex h Old Timer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: East UK Posts: 887	Just gimme a cheque for 30k and I'll sort something out __________________ Regards Alex H

30th December 2004, 08:31 PM	#7
Sharpie Senior Member UK Spec - Auto Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Lancashire Posts: 369	You must have to spend on getting good traction down with all this power ? Drag Suspension and DR's for the strip ? And brakes ? Do the 8s cars in US run stock brakes ? __________________ Pete 95 UK TT Auto 202 If you dream it, you can build it.

21st December 2004, 11:05 PM	#1
Martin F Administrator UK Spec - Manual Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 10,226	Discussion about going single in the chase for dyno figures or explosive drag strip performance. Car would only be expected to put down top figures on race fuel and at occasional dyno\strip runs. __________________ Martin UK6TT + Bits & Bobs 'Remember folks, the inside lane isn't just for Xmas' MSOC FAQ MSOC Members Discounts MSOC Resources

30th December 2004, 07:45 PM	#6
Martin F Administrator UK Spec - Manual Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 10,226	For out and out power an engine build is going to have to be high on the list. Increasing capacity may as well be done on the assumption you will be using a pretty big blower so will want as much volume as possible to get it spooling, also a higher capacity engine will increase torque lower down. So something around ?7k for a HKS 3.4 stroker and another ?3k for the assembly and any other parts like high lift cams, valve springs, head gasket etc. Would be an easy ?10k spent on just the block. __________________ Martin UK6TT + Bits & Bobs 'Remember folks, the inside lane isn't just for Xmas' MSOC FAQ MSOC Members Discounts MSOC Resources

30th December 2004, 09:23 PM	#8
alex h Old Timer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: East UK Posts: 887	I was avoiding chassis upgrades as they are seperate. However yes you're right lots of other things would need upgrading too. Infact if we're going for out and out power I'd be sticking in a 3UZ 5.2 V8... __________________ Regards Alex H

30th December 2004, 10:31 PM	#9
Martin F Administrator UK Spec - Manual Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 10,226	I wonder how long until we see cars built for pure dyno competitions in this country like they seem to do in the US. __________________ Martin UK6TT + Bits & Bobs 'Remember folks, the inside lane isn't just for Xmas' MSOC FAQ MSOC Members Discounts MSOC Resources

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