Gear ratios and speeds

[alex h]

Well I was a bit bored so using the Quaife Gearbox calc tool I've put together a list of all the main combo's of gearboxes and the speeds attainable by them. Mainly of interest to me was the major differences between the V160 and V161 manual gearboxes...the latter being much better gear (yay) for dragging with uprated power, as you're not in danger of having to switch up to 5th unless you're running silly power...but check out the Auto with the UK Manual Diff - lol how fast!

Gearbox:- ?2JZ-GTE VVTI V161 6-Spd
Tyre:- ? ? ? Michelin all patterns 235/45 x 17
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Top Gear gives 27.348 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 191.438 MPH at 7000 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
? ?30 MPH = 1097 RPM ? 40 MPH = 1463 RPM ? 50 MPH = 1828 RPM ? 60 MPH = 2194 RPM
? ?70 MPH = 2560 RPM ? 80 MPH = 2925 RPM ? 90 MPH = 3291 RPM ?100 MPH = 3657 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 42.050 MPH
? ?And changes into 2 gear at 4222 RPM dropping 2778 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 69.722 MPH
? ?And changes into 3 gear at 4803 RPM dropping 2197 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 101.620 MPH
? ?And changes into 4 gear at 5474 RPM dropping 1526 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 129.955 MPH
? ?And changes into 5 gear at 5809 RPM dropping 1191 RPM
Top Speed in 5 gear = 156.596 MPH
? ?And changes into 6 gear at 5726 RPM dropping 1274 RPM
Top Speed in 6 gear = 191.438 MPH
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Gearbox:- ?2JZ-GTE V160 6-Spd
Tyre:- ? ? ? Michelin all patterns 235/45 x 17
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Top Gear gives 28.210 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 197.473 MPH at 7000 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
? ?30 MPH = 1063 RPM ? 40 MPH = 1418 RPM ? 50 MPH = 1772 RPM ? 60 MPH = 2127 RPM
? ?70 MPH = 2481 RPM ? 80 MPH = 2836 RPM ? 90 MPH = 3190 RPM ?100 MPH = 3545 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 40.919 MPH
? ?And changes into 2 gear at 4317 RPM dropping 2683 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 66.354 MPH
? ?And changes into 3 gear at 4998 RPM dropping 2002 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 92.935 MPH
? ?And changes into 4 gear at 5450 RPM dropping 1550 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 119.357 MPH
? ?And changes into 5 gear at 5335 RPM dropping 1665 RPM
Top Speed in 5 gear = 156.596 MPH
? ?And changes into 6 gear at 5551 RPM dropping 1449 RPM
Top Speed in 6 gear = 197.473 MPH
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Gearbox:- ?2JZ-GE (NA) W58 5-Spd
Tyre:- ? ? ? Michelin all patterns 235/45 x 17
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Top Gear gives 22.854 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 159.976 MPH at 7000 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
? ?30 MPH = 1313 RPM ? 40 MPH = 1750 RPM ? 50 MPH = 2188 RPM ? 60 MPH = 2625 RPM
? ?70 MPH = 3063 RPM ? 80 MPH = 3501 RPM ? 90 MPH = 3938 RPM ?100 MPH = 4376 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 38.131 MPH
? ?And changes into 2 gear at 4036 RPM dropping 2964 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 66.136 MPH
? ?And changes into 3 gear at 4712 RPM dropping 2288 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 98.244 MPH
? ?And changes into 4 gear at 5490 RPM dropping 1510 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 125.261 MPH
? ?And changes into 5 gear at 5481 RPM dropping 1519 RPM
Top Speed in 5 gear = 159.976 MPH
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Gearbox:- ?2JZ-GTE AUTO 4-spd
Tyre:- ? ? ? Michelin all patterns 235/45 x 17
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Top Gear gives 27.497 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 192.478 MPH at 7000 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
? ?30 MPH = 1091 RPM ? 40 MPH = 1455 RPM ? 50 MPH = 1818 RPM ? 60 MPH = 2182 RPM
? ?70 MPH = 2546 RPM ? 80 MPH = 2909 RPM ? 90 MPH = 3273 RPM ?100 MPH = 3637 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 48.394 MPH
? ?And changes into 2 gear at 3822 RPM dropping 3178 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 88.633 MPH
? ?And changes into 3 gear at 4572 RPM dropping 2428 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 135.697 MPH
? ?And changes into 4 gear at 4935 RPM dropping 2065 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 192.478 MPH
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Gearbox:- ?2JZ-GE (NA) AUTO 4-Spd
Tyre:- ? ? ? Michelin all patterns 235/45 x 17
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Top Gear gives 25.382 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 177.676 MPH at 7000 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
? ?30 MPH = 1182 RPM ? 40 MPH = 1576 RPM ? 50 MPH = 1970 RPM ? 60 MPH = 2364 RPM
? ?70 MPH = 2758 RPM ? 80 MPH = 3152 RPM ? 90 MPH = 3546 RPM ?100 MPH = 3940 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 44.672 MPH
? ?And changes into 2 gear at 3822 RPM dropping 3178 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 81.817 MPH
? ?And changes into 3 gear at 4572 RPM dropping 2428 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 125.261 MPH
? ?And changes into 4 gear at 4935 RPM dropping 2065 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 177.676 MPH
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Gearbox:- ?2JZ-GTE VVTI V161 6-Spd w/UK DIFF
Tyre:- ? ? ? Michelin all patterns 235/45 x 17
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Top Gear gives 28.509 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 199.564 MPH at 7000 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
? ?30 MPH = 1052 RPM ? 40 MPH = 1403 RPM ? 50 MPH = 1754 RPM ? 60 MPH = 2105 RPM
? ?70 MPH = 2455 RPM ? 80 MPH = 2806 RPM ? 90 MPH = 3157 RPM ?100 MPH = 3508 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 43.836 MPH
? ?And changes into 2 gear at 4222 RPM dropping 2778 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 72.682 MPH
? ?And changes into 3 gear at 4803 RPM dropping 2197 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 105.934 MPH
? ?And changes into 4 gear at 5474 RPM dropping 1526 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 135.472 MPH
? ?And changes into 5 gear at 5809 RPM dropping 1191 RPM
Top Speed in 5 gear = 163.244 MPH
? ?And changes into 6 gear at 5726 RPM dropping 1274 RPM
Top Speed in 6 gear = 199.564 MPH
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Gearbox:- ?2JZ-GTE V160 6-Spd w/UK DIFF
Tyre:- ? ? ? Michelin all patterns 235/45 x 17
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Top Gear gives 29.408 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 205.856 MPH at 7000 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
? ?30 MPH = 1020 RPM ? 40 MPH = 1360 RPM ? 50 MPH = 1700 RPM ? 60 MPH = 2040 RPM
? ?70 MPH = 2380 RPM ? 80 MPH = 2720 RPM ? 90 MPH = 3060 RPM ?100 MPH = 3400 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 42.656 MPH
? ?And changes into 2 gear at 4317 RPM dropping 2683 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 69.171 MPH
? ?And changes into 3 gear at 4998 RPM dropping 2002 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 96.880 MPH
? ?And changes into 4 gear at 5450 RPM dropping 1550 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 124.424 MPH
? ?And changes into 5 gear at 5335 RPM dropping 1665 RPM
Top Speed in 5 gear = 163.244 MPH
? ?And changes into 6 gear at 5551 RPM dropping 1449 RPM
Top Speed in 6 gear = 205.856 MPH
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Gearbox:- ?2JZ-GTE AUTO 4-spd w/UK MANUAL DIFF
Tyre:- ? ? ? Michelin all patterns 235/45 x 17
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Top Gear gives 33.079 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 231.551 MPH at 7000 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
? ?30 MPH = 907 RPM ? 40 MPH = 1209 RPM ? 50 MPH = 1512 RPM ? 60 MPH = 1814 RPM
? ?70 MPH = 2116 RPM ? 80 MPH = 2418 RPM ? 90 MPH = 2721 RPM ?100 MPH = 3023 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 58.218 MPH
? ?And changes into 2 gear at 3822 RPM dropping 3178 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 106.625 MPH
? ?And changes into 3 gear at 4572 RPM dropping 2428 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 163.244 MPH
? ?And changes into 4 gear at 4935 RPM dropping 2065 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 231.551 MPH
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Gearbox:- ?2JZ-GTE AUTO 4-spd w/JAP MANUAL DIFF
Tyre:- ? ? ? Michelin all patterns 235/45 x 17
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Top Gear gives 31.732 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 222.122 MPH at 7000 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
? ?30 MPH = 945 RPM ? 40 MPH = 1261 RPM ? 50 MPH = 1576 RPM ? 60 MPH = 1891 RPM
? ?70 MPH = 2206 RPM ? 80 MPH = 2521 RPM ? 90 MPH = 2836 RPM ?100 MPH = 3151 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 55.847 MPH
? ?And changes into 2 gear at 3822 RPM dropping 3178 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 102.283 MPH
? ?And changes into 3 gear at 4572 RPM dropping 2428 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 156.596 MPH
? ?And changes into 4 gear at 4935 RPM dropping 2065 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 222.122 MPH
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[Martin F]

Errrr where did you get the auto ratios from ?

[alex h]

www.mkiv.co.nz
Monkey Mark reckons there is another Export Diff...not seen a ratio for that though.

[adi2009]

would the car be a lot less quicker if u run the W58 5spd tranny with the 2JZGTE or would it be more or less the same as running with the v160 6spd tranny?

[Martin F]

It will be quicker accelerating but not so fast at top end.

[Leeky]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (alex h @ Dec. 03 2004,11:25)]Gearbox:- ?2JZ-GTE AUTO 4-spd w/UK MANUAL DIFF
Tyre:- ? ? ? Michelin all patterns 235/45 x 17
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Top Gear gives 33.079 MPH/1000 RPM and a top speed of 231.551 MPH at 7000 RPM

Engine speeds in top gear:-
? ?30 MPH = 907 RPM ? 40 MPH = 1209 RPM ? 50 MPH = 1512 RPM ? 60 MPH = 1814 RPM
? ?70 MPH = 2116 RPM ? 80 MPH = 2418 RPM ? 90 MPH = 2721 RPM ?100 MPH = 3023 RPM

Top Speed in 1 gear = 58.218 MPH
? ?And changes into 2 gear at 3822 RPM dropping 3178 RPM
Top Speed in 2 gear = 106.625 MPH
? ?And changes into 3 gear at 4572 RPM dropping 2428 RPM
Top Speed in 3 gear = 163.244 MPH
? ?And changes into 4 gear at 4935 RPM dropping 2065 RPM
Top Speed in 4 gear = 231.551 MPH
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Your saying that by fitting a uk maual diff to a auto gives it a ratio to obtain over 230mph Cool

[chiefgroover]

MY UK with 265/35/18 cut out @ 194 on the rolling road.

[alex h]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (chiefgroover @ Dec. 11 2004,19:28)]MY UK with 265/35/18 cut out @ 194 on the rolling road.

I've recently become aware of the fact that the stock ECU tends to lean towards a 6,800-7,000rpm rev limit - when given enough time to initiate it, ie in a higher gear. ie it's not 7,000 rpm on the nose everytime.

This could account for you not hitting you "theoretical" top speed.

[chiefgroover]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]This could account for you not hitting you "theoretical" top speed.

Also a new tyre@8mm vs a worn tyre @ 2mm is bound to affect top speed a litte ?
I had always calculated a 201mph top end on fresh tyres?
You may be surprised to know that Euro spec TT manual Supra's were originally road tested @ "over 185mph" according to BBC news the day the car was released. I'll never forget that one!.
Several members of the forum and myself can testify that the speedo needle can go the the H of MPH :-)